rookies and championships

What's the shortest time a driver has taken to go from rookie to champion?
Jeff Gordon did it his third full year. Tony Stewart in his 4th year. Has
anyone actually done it their first or second year?

It seems much more possible this year with the chase for the championship. I
don't think it's likely that Kasey will actually go all the way this year,
but he will definitely be in the chase.

Your thoughts?

"Wheeler" <wheeler2468@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> r a p p y wrote:
>
> >
> > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:xeGdnRV4QYNule7dRVn-iQ@giganews.com...
> >> Wavking wrote:
> >> > What's the shortest time a driver has taken to go from rookie
> >> > to champion? Jeff Gordon did it his third full year. Tony
> >> > Stewart in his 4th year. Has anyone actually done it their
> >> > first or second year?
> >> >
> >> > It seems much more possible this year with the chase for the
> >> > championship. I don't think it's likely that Kasey will
> >> > actually go all the way this year, but he will definitely be in
> >> > the chase.
> >> >
> >> > Your thoughts?
> >>
> >> Welcome new fan. ;-)
> >>
> >> That would be Dale Earnhardt who was Cup champion in his second
> >> year. He was also the only driver to win Rookie of the Year and
> >> a Cup in back to
> > back
> >> years.
> >
> > Wasn't the year he won his first championship actually like his
> > 6th year of racing in cup?
> > 4 part time years prior to his first full season?
>
>
> 1 race in '75
> 2 in '76
> 1 in '77
> 5 in '78
>
>
> And he missed 4 races his rookie year.
>
> What's your point?

Didn't know there had to be one.
Just pointing out he had run races for four years
before his first full season.
>
>
> -----
> Wheeler
>

r a p p y wrote:
> "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FMudnSb4E6N1he7d4p2dnA@giganews.com...
>> r a p p y wrote:
>>> "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:R9mdnYmD5NSUk-7dRVn-ig@giganews.com...
>>>> r a p p y wrote:
>>>>> "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:xeGdnRV4QYNule7dRVn-iQ@giganews.com...
>>>>>> Wavking wrote:
>>>>>>> What's the shortest time a driver has taken to go from rookie to
>>>>>>> champion? Jeff Gordon did it his third full year. Tony Stewart
>>>>>>> in his 4th year. Has anyone actually done it their first or
>>>>>>> second year?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems much more possible this year with the chase for the
>>>>>>> championship. I don't think it's likely that Kasey will actually
>>>>>>> go all the way this year, but he will definitely be in the
>>>>>>> chase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome new fan. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be Dale Earnhardt who was Cup champion in his second
>>>>>> year. He was also the only driver to win Rookie of the Year and
>>>>>> a Cup in back to back years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't the year he won his first championship actually like his
>>>>> 6th year of racing in cup?
>>>>> 4 part time years prior to his first full season?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rap you are grasping here and you know it.
>>> It's just an observation
>>> Earnhardt ran several part time seasons and Kasey hasn't...........
>>>
>>> I think they are very different "rookie" campaigns.
>>> What's so wrong about pointing that out?
>>>
>>>
>>> You know that all legitimate
>>>> statistics count full time years starting with the drivers full
>>>> time rookie year.
>>>
>>> Just what is inaccurate in what i asked?
>>> I said "part time"
>>>
>>> Do you really think I' misleading anyone? Doesn't just about
>>> everyone in here
>>> know some guys back then ran more than a few races before going full
>>> time?
>>>
>>> Stop trying to prop up you hero. Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder
>>>> myself is he'll ever mount up to the achievements of Dale and
>>>> Richard. Things aren't looking too good lately.
>>>>
>>> LOL.....................
>>>
>>> Whatever..............I just point out that Kasey's rookie season is
>>> differnet from Earnhardt's
>>> rookie season in one respect and you feel a need to stretch that
>>> into a Gordon Earnhardt
>>> thing somehow...........
>>>
>>> Go for it if that makes you happy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>> Q: "What did the redneck say right before he died?"
>>>> A: "Hey ya'all watch this!!"
>>
>> Rap Earnhardt was also much older then Kasie but does that mater?
>> If it didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have brought it up. Every
>> drivers carrier is different then the next. What matters, when these
>> types of questions are asked, is how the stats are kept and in that
>> view, Dale is the modern era leader in the category of driver to win
>> a cup soonest after their rookie year.
>
>
> good grief.
> I never siad he wasn't...........
>

I didn't say you said he wasn't I pointed out that you added a useless
little caveat to the fact that he is.

--

Rob
Q: "What did the redneck say right before he died?"
A: "Hey ya'all watch this!!"

"Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> r a p p y wrote:
> >>
> >> Rap Earnhardt was also much older then Kasie but does that mater?
> >> If it didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have brought it up. Every
> >> drivers carrier is different then the next. What matters, when these
> >> types of questions are asked, is how the stats are kept and in that
> >> view, Dale is the modern era leader in the category of driver to win
> >> a cup soonest after their rookie year.
> >
> >
> > good grief.
> > I never siad he wasn't...........
> >
>
> I didn't say you said he wasn't I pointed out that you added a useless
> little caveat to the fact that he is.
>

No more useless than the thread.

> --
>
> Rob
> Q: "What did the redneck say right before he died?"
> A: "Hey ya'all watch this!!"
>
>
>
>

r a p p y wrote:

>
> "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:WO2dneGYTcYIh-7dRVn-hw@giganews.com...

>> I didn't say you said he wasn't I pointed out that you added a
>> useless little caveat to the fact that he is.
>>
>
> No more useless than the thread.


At least it was about racing.


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Wheeler

"Wheeler" <wheeler2468@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> r a p p y wrote:
>
> >
> > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rrkircher@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:WO2dneGYTcYIh-7dRVn-hw@giganews.com...
>
> >> I didn't say you said he wasn't I pointed out that you added a
> >> useless little caveat to the fact that he is.
> >>
> >
> > No more useless than the thread.
>
>
> At least it was about racing.
R U sure?
I thought it was a stealth reference to GW Bush

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>
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> Wheeler

Just what does "Rookie Of The Year" or "______________" Cup Champion mean
anymore???
"THE WINSTON" is no more.(being a champion got you into that race).
Oh, as a "past "__________" Cup Champion" you can get into a race if you
can't qualify.
Rookie Of The Year means nothing after the season ends.

IIRC Rusty Wallace was a ROTY, and a "____________" Cup Champion.

Where is he now?