The army is going to grow

[sandfleas]

The army is going to increase its size by 15 battalions . If they bring back a whole division what deactivated division should it be ?

[The_Federalist]

Originally Posted by sandfleas

The army is going to increase its size by 15 battalions . If they bring back a whole division what deactivated division should it be ?

When did this news break?

I am partial to the 7ID, 24ID, 11th ABN, and 2AD

[Hannibal]

I dont think they will at all. The new force structure is going to be centered around brigades, not sure what if any divisions will survive in their current form.

But if they do it will be based on lineage right? Most honors etc etc? The 7th is already active just as a reserve div stationed at Ft Carson.

[Ironside]

Hannible, here's something on that.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/...013004,00.html

[sandfleas]

Originally Posted by Hannibal

I dont think they will at all. The new force structure is going to be centered around brigades, not sure what if any divisions will survive in their current form.

But if they do it will be based on lineage right? Most honors etc etc? The 7th is already active just as a reserve div stationed at Ft Carson.

Unit history is what they used to decide which divisions to keep around when they down sized in the 90's .

They got rid of the 5th , 8th, 9th ,and 24th Infantry Divisions . They also got rid of a bunch of Infantry Brigades and the 2nd and, 3rd Armor Divisions . There might have been more . These are just the ones I remember .

I figure they would have kept the 24ID around and would have got rid of the 3rd ID back in the 90's . The 24ID was part of the 18TH airborne corp at the time .

The_Federalist I saw it on the news today they are increasing the army from 33 battalions to 48 . Which according to the news is 33,000 more soldiers .

[The_Federalist]

Originally Posted by sandfleas

Unit history is what they used to decide which divisions to keep around when they down sized in the 90's .

They got rid of the 5th , 8th, 9th ,and 24th Infantry Divisions . They also got rid of a bunch of Infantry Brigades and the 2nd and, 3rd Armor Divisions . There might have been more . These are just the ones I remember .

I figure they would have kept the 24ID around and would have got rid of the 3rd ID back in the 90's . The 24ID was part of the 18TH airborne corp at the time .

The_Federalist I saw it on the news today they are increasing the army from 33 battalions to 48 . Which according to the news is 33,000 more soldiers .

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...0129-usa01.htm

The new 30,000 troops will be a temporary extension, not authorized by Congress. I listened to the CSA on C-SPAN yesterday talk about the need for more troops and why this would be a temporary authorization and not a permanent one.

They do not want to recruit 30,000 soldiers to train another two divisions, to be ready in 2008 and not be need them. A division is expensive, and without the appropriate funds through Congress there might not be money for that unit and others to equip and train. Seems kind of hokey as Congress constitutionally is the one that reserves the right to raise an Army as opposed to the Chief Executive.

We are moving from 33 BCTs to 48 BCTs, by adding a new maneuver brigade to each division, which doesn’t necessarily translate into more battalions. Rather by eliminating ADA Battalions (ALL 10 of them), reducing engineering brigades, reducing divisional field artillery and support units and cutting them straight into each maneuver brigade we have a much more “complete” package for each BCT.

In all I like the idea, less tooth for tail, at least organizationally speaking a lot like the SBCTs and to some extent the ACRs.

I for one look forward to seeing the final product.

[The_Federalist]

Also let me suffix my previous statement by saying I am completely biased about the idea, by adding 3000-4000 infantry to each division (either by transition or new accessions), means the Army is going to need a lot more Infantry in the Active force.

Which will mean my chances of branching INF in DEC become pretty good, and I am rather fond of that idea.