Achmuud

Yeah, most of them are less talented than the NHLers. But I usually
get more joy out watching amateurs and minor leaguers than the NHL.
Especially live - the rinks are smaller, so you're closer to the
action. The players often have more passion. And the beer is cheaper
too!

In article <c7kuig$6fg$1@hercules.btinternet.com>, Sean Smith
<sean.d.smith@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hey.
>
> If you think NHL is borning you should try living in the UK like I do and
> watch the BNL and Elite League?
>
>
> "I R Canuck" <direct_your_NOSPAManger@NOSPAMpopstar.com> wrote in message
> news:Jkbhc.37064$mn3.15748@clgrps13...
> > "Achmuud" <hank@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:190420042111026789%hank@netscape.net...
> > >
> > > NHL Hockey has become a whack & hack, clutch & grab sport.
> > >
> > > I don't have the answer, but the NHL has a big problem. Holding,
> > > hooking, slashing, tackling is no longer penalized. The bigger and
> > > stronger players now prevail in a game that was once fantastic.
> >
> > I entirely blame the crackdown on fighting. It used to be that if
> > someone was playing clutch and grab with your star, your big
> > guy would drop the gloves and he'd stop.
> >
> > Illustration:
> >
> > Dale Hunter (flames) is doing the clutch and grab with Gretzky
> > (oilers). Dave Semenko steps out onto the ice, drops the gloves
> > with Hunter and nobody plays clutch and grab with Gretzky for
> > the rest of the game. Not because they don't want a penalty
> > but because they don't want to get SemenKO'd.
> >
> > > Alas, read down through the past and weep for what once was.
> >
> > I also think that the points may have something to do with the
> > spreading of talent.
> > more teams + same amount of talent = less talent per team.
> >
> > > Player Points
> > >
> > > 2003-2004
> > >
> > > 1 Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay...... 94
> > > 2 Joe Sakic, Colorado.............. 87
> > > 2 Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta.......... 87
> > > 4 Markus Naslund, Vancouver........ 84
> > > 5 Marian Hossa, Ottawa............. 82
> > > 6 Patrik Elias, New Jersey......... 81
> > > 7 Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa........ 80
> > > 7 Cory Stillman, Tampa Bay......... 80
> > > 9 Alex Tanguay, Colorado........... 79
> > > 9 Robert Lang, 2 teams............. 79
> > > 9 Brad Richards, Tampa Bay......... 79
> > >
> > >
> > > 1985-1986- Defenseman gets 138 pts!
> > >
> > > 1 Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton..........215
> > > 2 Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh........141
> > > 3 Paul Coffey, Edmonton............138
> > > 4 Jari Kurri, Edmonton.............131
> > > 5 Mike Bossy, NY Islanders.........123
> > > 6 Peter Stastny, Quebec............122
> > > 7 Denis Savard, Chicago............116
> > > 8 Mats Naslund, Mtl. Canadiens.....110
> > > 9 Neal Broten, Minnesota...........105
> > > 9 Dale Hawerchuk, Winnipeg.........105
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1984-1985
> > >
> > > 1 Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton..........208
> > > 2 Jari Kurri, Edmonton.............135
> > > 3 Dale Hawerchuk, Winnipeg.........130
> > > 4 Marcel Dionne, Los Angeles.......126
> > > 5 Paul Coffey, Edmonton............121
> > > 6 Mike Bossy, NY Islanders.........117
> > > 7 Denis Savard, Chicago............105
> > > 7 John Ogrodnick, Detroit..........105
> > > 9 Bernie Federko, St. Louis........103
> > > 10 Mike Gartner, Washington.........102
> > > 10 Brent Sutter, NY Islanders.......102
> > >
> > >
> > > 1983-1984
> > >
> > > 1 Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton..........205
> > > 2 Paul Coffey, Edmonton............126
> > > 3 Michel Goulet, Quebec............121
> > > 4 Peter Stastny, Quebec............119
> > > 5 Mike Bossy, NY Islanders.........118
> > > 6 Barry Pederson, Boston...........116
> > > 7 Jari Kurri, Edmonton.............113
> > > 8 Bryan Trottier, NY Islanders.....111
> > > 9 Bernie Federko, St. Louis........107
> > > 10 Rick Middleton, Boston...........105
> > >
> > >
> > > 1981-1982
> > >
> > > 1 Wayne Gretzky, Edmonton..........212
> > > 2 Mike Bossy, NY Islanders.........147
> > > 3 Peter Stastny, Quebec............139
> > > 4 Dennis Maruk, Washington.........136
> > > 5 Bryan Trottier, NY Islanders.....129
> > > 6 Denis Savard, Chicago............119
> > > 7 Marcel Dionne, Los Angeles.......117
> > > 8 Bobby Smith, Minnesota...........114
> > > 9 Dino Ciccarelli, Minnesota.......106
> > > 9 Dave Taylor, Los Angeles.........106
> > >
> > > 1978-1979 - No Gretzky or Oilers!
> > >
> > > 1 Bryan Trottier, NY Islanders.....134
> > > 2 Marcel Dionne, Los Angeles.......130
> > > 3 Guy Lafleur, Mtl. Canadiens......129
> > > 4 Mike Bossy, NY Islanders.........126
> > > 5 Bob MacMillan, Atlanta...........108
> > > 6 Guy Chouinard, Atlanta...........107
> > > 7 Denis Potvin, NY Islanders.......101
> > > 8 Bernie Federko, St. Louis........ 95
> > > 9 Clark Gillies, NY Islanders...... 91
> > > 9 Dave Taylor, Los Angeles......... 91
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1970-1971 - Defenseman 139 points!!!!!
> > >
> > > 1 Phil Esposito, Boston............152
> > > 2 Bobby Orr, Boston................139
> > > 3 Johnny Bucyk, Boston.............116
> > > 4 Ken Hodge, Boston................105
> > > 5 Bobby Hull, Chicago.............. 96
> > > 6 Norm Ullman, Toronto............. 85
> > > 7 Wayne Cashman, Boston............ 79
> > > 8 John McKenzie, Boston............ 77
> > > 9 Dave Keon, Toronto............... 76
> > > 9 Fred Stanfield, Boston........... 76
> > > 9 Jean Beliveau, Mtl. Canadiens.... 76
> > >
> > >
> > > 1969-1970 - Defenseman Wins The Scoring Race !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > 1 Bobby Orr, Boston................120
> > > 2 Phil Esposito, Boston............ 99
> > > 3 Stan Mikita, Chicago............. 86
> > > 4 Phil Goyette, St. Louis.......... 78
> > > 5 Walt Tkaczuk, NY Rangers......... 77
> > > 6 Jean Ratelle, NY Rangers......... 74
> > > 7 Jean-Paul Parise, Minnesota...... 72
> > > 7 Gordon Berenson, St. Louis....... 72
> > > 9 Gordie Howe, Detroit............. 71
> > > 10 Dave Balon, NY Rangers........... 70
> > > 10 John McKenzie, Boston............ 70
> > > 10 Frank Mahovlich, Detroit......... 70
> >
> >
>
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